Question 24 - Site 9 - Land South of Knowle
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7374
Received: 11/03/2019
Respondent: Golden End Farms
Agent: Delta Planning
Before allocating this site the Council needs to satisfy itself that the site is deliverable. The scheme is controlled by numerous landowners and requires complex infrastructure delivery. There has to be a concern about delivery of this site, and particularly over how long that could take. At best much of the housing will be delivered in the later stages of the local plan period.
The whole rationale and concept behind the site to date is that it would secure delivery of a replacement secondary school. Option 1 excludes this and objection is raised to this.
Please see full representation.
Before allocating this site the Council again needs to satisfy itself that the site is deliverable. The scheme is controlled by numerous different landowners and requires complex infrastructure delivery. There has to be a concern about delivery of this site, and particularly over how long that could take. At best much of the housing will be delivered in the later stages of the local plan period.
Notwithstanding the above, the whole rationale and concept behind the site to date is that it would secure delivery of a replacement secondary school. Option 1 however excludes this and objection is raised to this option. Without the secondary school, the site justification falls away and it should be removed entirely from the plan and replaced by other more suitable sites. We therefore object to Option 1.
Support
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7391
Received: 11/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Stuart Whitehill
I feel that the best option for the current and future generations is to support site 9, option 2, making any new housing development on the Arden Triangle contingent on the provision of a new Arden academy (and Primary School to ensure sufficient access for the increased number of homes and maintain access for current homes to existing schools).
I feel that the best option for the current and future generations is to support site 9, option 2, making any new housing development on the Arden Triangle contingent on the provision of a new Arden academy (and Primary School to ensure sufficient access for the increased number of homes and maintain access for current homes to existing schools).
Support
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7446
Received: 11/03/2019
Respondent: Mark Irvine
Strong support for moving the school.
I do not support the plan retaining the school in its existing location
Support subject to option 2 moving the school:
The existing school is now over 60 years old. The relocation of the school to a new site with new facilities would be a great enhancement to the schools ability to maintain and further its work and reputation. Further if these facilities could be made available to the residents as proposed they would be a valuable asset to the community. I do not see these facilities being made available elsewhere in the plan under option 1 of retaining the location of the school, so additional provision would need to be made in the case of option 1 retaining the school in the existing location.
Support
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7511
Received: 11/03/2019
Respondent: mrs Sue Butler
I support Option 2
I support Option 2
Comment
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7517
Received: 11/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Antony Stonehewer
The area 9 should be dependant upon the construction of a new secondary school with appropriate sixth form site. The current Arden schools buildings are in efficient and do not serve the pupils or the community. By constructing a new school at a better location will improve traffic along station rd and provided benefits to the community.
The area 9 should be dependant upon the construction of a new secondary school with appropriate sixth form site. The current Arden schools buildings are in efficient and do not serve the pupils or the community. By constructing a new school at a better location will improve traffic along station rd and provided benefits to the community.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7524
Received: 11/03/2019
Respondent: Christopher Kiddle Morris
The Mind Garden should not be included within Site 9 to ensure for the long term these much needed mental health care facilities and the bio-diversity work undertaken.
The development of Site 9 whilst otherwise appropriate will further increase the current traffic jams at peak times on Warwick Road and Knowle High Street. Another route around the High Street needs to be found.
The siting of a new primary school as per Option 2 for Arden Academy will encourage parking to pick up children on Station Road adjacent to Purnells Way with high risk safety issues. Option 1 preferred
The Mind Garden should not be included within Site 9 to ensure for the long term these much needed mental health care facilities and the bio-diversity work undertaken.
The development of Site 9 whilst otherwise appropriate will further increase the current traffic jams at peak times on Warwick Road and Knowle High Street. Another route around the High Street needs to be found.
The siting of a new primary school as per Option 2 for Arden Academy will encourage parking to pick up children on Station Road adjacent to Purnells Way with high risk safety issues. Option 1 preferred
Comment
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7564
Received: 15/03/2019
Respondent: Colin Davis
Ardens Academy's plans for high density housing should not be considered. Too many new developments in Solihull are cramped and poorly laid out.
Ardens Academy's plans for high density housing should not be considered. Too many new developments in Solihull are cramped and poorly laid out
Support
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7707
Received: 12/03/2019
Respondent: Mel Starling
New housing built will be able to access Knowle Dorridge and Bentley Heath easily
This site consists of moderately performing greenbelt. Build 750 houses here and improve Ardens sports facilities for all to use. Dentist and doctors surgeries already exist. Close to rail links bus services shops Supermarkets
New primary school necessary. Existing school is at saturation point loacation poor New secondary school is not- limit places to catchment area
Cost of a new school will be met buy the purchasers of the new houses approx - 60k each!
New housing built will be able to access Knowle Dorridge and Bentley Heath easily
This site consists of moderately performing greenbelt. Build 750 houses here and improve Ardens sports facilities for all to use. Dentist and doctors surgeries already exist. Close to rail links bus services shops Supermarkets
Hampton Road is high performing greenbelt and not near any ammenities
Comment
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7710
Received: 12/03/2019
Respondent: Lucy Shepherd
Arden Academy desperately needs work so out of two options I would support option 2 and school relocation. However, I object to any high density housing given loss of green belt and dramatic change of character it would mean, particularly in light of poor existing developments (Middlefield). Knowle will not be a village if this continues. If we must have more housing, I support option 2 for new Arden and new primary school, but we need better public transport, low density housing to fit in with what is here already and no more widening of the catchment area for Arden.
Arden Academy desperately needs work so out of two options I would support option 2 and school relocation. However, I object to any high density housing given loss of green belt and dramatic change of character it would mean, particularly in light of poor existing developments (Middlefield). Knowle will not be a village if this continues. If we must have more housing, I support option 2 for new Arden and new primary school, but we need better public transport, low density housing to fit in with what is here already and no more widening of the catchment area for Arden.
Comment
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7877
Received: 13/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Alex Wiseman
I feel the number of houses proposed for the Arden Triangle is excessive.
This is due to the excessive demands this number would place on existing infrastructure (not only roads but also GPs, schools etc.)
A lower number closer to half of that proposed seems more acceptable.
i feel the number of houses proposed for the arden triangle is excessive.
this is due to the excessive demands this number would place on existing infrastructure (not only roads but also GPs, schools etc.)
a lower number closer to half of that proposed seems more acceptable.
Comment
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7908
Received: 13/03/2019
Respondent: Mr John Hornby
The findings of the Crestwood Environmental Landscape and Visual appraisal of the Arden triangle development (commissioned by the KDBH Neighbourhood Forum and published in January 2019) is new evidence that the Council needs to take into account as it develops proposals to be included in the next version of the Local Plan. In particular, the Council should adopt the report's proposal that the public right of way that runs east-west some 300m north of Grove Road should be the "natural limit to development" in this area.
The Arden Triangle development proposition seems to be driving a major, strategic land release to the east of Knowle and Dorridge yet it is in itself questionable, as evidenced by the weight of arguments put against it when the Draft Local Plan was published and, more recently by the findings of the Crestwood Environmental Landscape & Visual appraisal of it commissioned by the KDBH Neighbourhood Forum and published in January 2019, that is after the Supplementary Consultation documents were agreed. Therefore this is new evidence that the Council needs to take into account as it considers responses to the Supplementary Consultation and in the developing of policies and proposals to be included in the next version of the Local Plan. The report recommends that that the public right of way that runs east-west some 300m north of Grove Road as the "natural limit to development" in this area. This should be taken into account in masterplanning this site.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7945
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Terry Corns
The inclusion of this large area of Green Belt land south of Knowle for residential development is flawed and excessive.
In particular the paragraphs at the bottom of page 4 & top of page 5 are well reasoned and I support them wholeheartedly. Also see Crestwood Environmental report dated 09/01/19 (prepared for KDBH Forum) which examines the vital environmental constraints and concludes that if development is to take place at all it should be restricted to land north of the footpath across the middle of the site.
The inclusion of this large area of Green Belt land south of Knowle for residential development is flawed and excessive for the reasons set out in the Knowle Society document attached. In particular the paragraphs at the bottom of page 4 & top of page 5 are well reasoned and I support them wholeheartedly. Also see Crestwood Environmental report dated 09/01/19 (prepared for KDBH Forum) which examines the vital environmental constraints and concludes that if development is to take place at all it should be restricted to land north of the footpath across the middle of the site.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 7947
Received: 13/03/2019
Respondent: Mrs Elisabeth Hedley
Do not believe Arden Academy needs to be relocated, as older buildings could be refurbished, and school caters from pupils outside area that should be educated elsewhere. Unless the school is re-located there is no wider community benefit from such a large scale development and far too many issues remain outstanding particularly traffic access and management. Development on the southern part would be particularly detrimental. Fragmented land ownership poses serious risk of piecemeal development. Please see the response from the Forum which I support and fully endorse.
I do not believe the Arden Academy needs to be relocated. Some of its buildings are very new and modern (financed by recent housing development in Knowle!) and comprehensive programme of refurbishment of the older buildings could easily be undertaken. It is also difficult to understand why large tracts of Green Belt land should be used for housing in order to finance a new school when a significant percentage of the pupils (over 40% of the sixth form) do not even come from the KDBH are and could presumably be adequately educated elsewhere in the Borough.
The southern part of the Arden Triangle is particularly sensitive and it is not easy to understand how this can be developed without causing significant harm to the rural aspect of the southern approach to Knowle along the Warwick Road. The fragmented land ownership of this site also poses a significant risk that the site will be developed in a piecemeal fashion which would be hugely detrimental to the village.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8001
Received: 13/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Michael Doble
If it is deemed necessary to develop this site, as it will be served by the Warwick Road, Station Road and hence the High Street, the additional traffic entering these already busy and narrow roads will cause considerable congestion especially in the High Street which is often part blocked by delivery vehicles. In which case any additional development to meet the housing numbers required should be located to the West or North of the village close to the M42 motorway. This would help limit congestion in Knowle village and be closer to the main centres of employment .
If it is deemed necessary to develop this site, as it will be served by the Warwick Road, Station Road and hence the High Street, the additional traffic entering these already busy and narrow roads will cause considerable congestion especially in the High Street which is often part blocked by delivery vehicles. In which case any additional development to meet the housing numbers required should be located to the West or North of the village close to the M42 motorway. This would help limit congestion in Knowle village and be closer to the main centres of employment .
Support
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8011
Received: 13/03/2019
Respondent: Mr & Mrs D Green
We support Site 9 (Option 2). If this site comes forward it should include the new secondary school. Without the school the site is not justified. The new secondary school is fully supported.
We do not support Site 9 (Option 1) as it excludes the school.
We support Site 9 (Option 2). If this site comes forward it should include the new secondary school. Without the school the site is not justified. The new secondary school is fully supported.
We do not support Site 9 (Option 1) as it excludes the school.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8023
Received: 13/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Ian Leedham
- Arden school has had considerable investment with construction of a £1m Multi Use Games Area and new buildings which have cost millions to furnish.
- There have not been returns on these investments and reselling the land is a dubious use of S106.
- The village is already over capacity, with traffic congestion and limited infrastructure.
- The Arden land is green belt with wildlife and protected features and trees. There has already been considerable loss of green belt land in the area.
Arden school has had considerable investment with construction of a £1m Multi Use Games Area and new buildings which have cost millions to furnish. There have not been returns on these investments and reselling the land is a dubious use of S106. The village is already over capacity, with traffic congestion and limited infrastructure. The Arden land is green belt with wildlife and protected features and trees. There has already been considerable loss of green belt land in the area.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8028
Received: 13/03/2019
Respondent: Mrs Jill Hillman
The Crestwood Arden Triangle Landscape Assessment gives full information why development should not extend any further south than Cuttle Brook and the Right of Way. Arden School only needs refurbishing as the entrance off Station Road is convenient and Safe. The proposed new site will mean cars and children accessing through a housing development. The 600 houses development is over development in a confined area which is already under pressure regarding infrastructure. Warwick Road and Grove Road are both inadequate roads to have a major development entering and exiting - major safety issue. The area should stay as Green Belt.
The Crestwood Arden Triangle Landscape Assessment gives full information why development should not be made any further south than Cuttle Brook and the Right of Way. The Arden School only needs refurbishing as the entrance to it on Station Road is convenient and Safe. The proposed new site will mean cars and children having to access through a housing development. The 600 houses development is over development in a confined area which is already under pressure regarding infrastructure. Warwick Road and Grove Road are both inadequate roads to have a major development entering and exiting - major safety issue.
I agree that the dwellings in Grove Road should remain a "washed over" Green Belt and that the land to the north between Grove Road and Knowle centre should be retained as Green Belt to provide a clear boundary to the existing residential area of the village. The Green Belt should not be built on as it should be kept as the small area of land that makes up the settlement of the villages of Knowle & Dorridge. Leave the Green Belt to do the job that it was set out to do - protect and enhance the area.
I object to your conclusion on site assessment methodology for the proposed Arden Triangle draft allocation and also the Blue Lake Road Amber site and I support the arguments in the KDBH and Pegasus Planning representations.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8050
Received: 13/03/2019
Respondent: Naomi Sheard
This is too many homes and will change the dynamic of the neighborhood. The infrastructure can not support this number of homes.
This is too many homes and will change the dynamic of the neighborhood. The infrastructure can not support this number of homes.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8112
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Gill Corns
I object to the plans for such a large area of residential development on Green Belt land also to the words used suggesting that it is in "a moderately performing parcel of Green Belt". This is an important area of Green Belt that contributes to the character of Knowle and the local flora and fauna. See Crestwood Environmental Report of 09/01/19 which underlines the environmental importance of the area and I wholeheartedly agree with them that building should be restricted north of the footpath across the centre of the site. I support the Knowle Society document Page 4 & 5
I object to the plans for such a large area of residential development on Green Belt land also to the words used suggesting that it is in "a moderately performing parcel of Green Belt". This is an important area of Green Belt that contributes to the character of Knowle and the local flora and fauna. See Crestwood Environmental Report of 09/01/19 which underlines the environmental importance of the area and I wholeheartedly agree with them that building should be restricted north of the footpath across the centre of the site. I support the Knowle Society document Page 4 & 5
Comment
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8136
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Dr David Gentle
The site is too big and poorly located. The boundaries are problematic. Access routes will exacerbate traffic congestion, parking problems and pollution.
There are issues of LA funding priorities with Option 2. The scheme has grown beyond its original concept, entailing the allocation of massive public funding to one establishment. Option 1 would give the LA more flexibility in addressing more urgent needs.
Need to address street view - concern at what is meant by 'perimeter block development to encourage active streets'.
Lack of clarity about the proposal for the Music/Drama block.
The site is too big and poorly located. The boundaries are problematic. Access routes will exacerbate traffic congestion, parking problems and pollution.
There are issues of LA funding priorities with Option 2. The scheme has grown beyond its original concept, entailing the allocation of massive public funding to one establishment. Option 1 would give the LA more flexibility in addressing more urgent needs.
Need to address street view - concern at what is meant by 'perimeter block development to encourage active streets'.
Lack of clarity about the proposal for the Music/Drama block.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8147
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Martin Archer
The Crestwood Arden Triangle Landscape Assessment was produced which makes clear the inadvisability of building further south than Cuttle Brook and the Right of Way.I think very serious note should be taken of this assessment
The Crestwood Arden Triangle Landscape Assessment was produced which makes clear the inadvisability of building further south than Cuttle Brook and the Right of Way.I think very serious note should be taken of this assessment
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8186
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Don Grantham
The inclusion of the significant area of Green Belt land south of Knowle for residential development is excessive, and flawed for the reasons set out in the Knowle Society document. Specifically the paragraphs at the bottom of page 4 & top of page 5 are well reasoned and I support them completely. Also I would refer you to the Crestwood Environmental report dated 09/01/19 (prepared for KDBH Forum) covering the vital environmental constraints and concludes that if development is to take place at all it should be restricted to land north of the footpath across the middle of the site.
The inclusion of the significant area of Green Belt land south of Knowle for residential development is excessive, and flawed for the reasons set out in the Knowle Society document. Specifically the paragraphs at the bottom of page 4 & top of page 5 are well reasoned and I support them completely. Also I would refer you to the Crestwood Environmental report dated 09/01/19 (prepared for KDBH Forum) covering the vital environmental constraints and concludes that if development is to take place at all it should be restricted to land north of the footpath across the middle of the site.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8220
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Mrs Helen Baker
The Knowle Society Document dated Feb 2017 illustrates that including this large area of Green Belt land south of Knowle for residential development is flawed and excessive. If any development is considered it should be only to the north of the footpath across the middle site.
The Knowle Society Document dated Feb 2017 illustrates that including this large area of Green Belt land south of Knowle for residential development is flawed and excessive. If any development is considered it should be only to the north of the footpath across the middle site.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8267
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Adrian Baker
I firmly believe that the large area of Green Belt land south of Knowle for residential development is too large as set out by the Knowle Society document previously attached. The relocation of the Academy option is NOT a good enough reason to build 600 homes on this site. The Crestwood Environmental report dated 09/01/19 (prepared for KDBH Forum ) advises that IF any development takes place this should be restricted to the north of Cuttle Brook due to access and environmental constraints
I firmly believe that the large area of Green Belt land south of Knowle for residential development is too large as set out by the Knowle Society document previously attached. The relocation of the Academy option is NOT a good enough reason to build 600 homes on this site. The Crestwood Environmental report dated 09/01/19 (prepared for KDBH Forum ) advises that IF any development takes place this should be restricted to the north of Cuttle Brook due to access and environmental constraints
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8268
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Mr David Power
Destroying Green Belt land south of Knowle for houses is not the right decision in my opinion, the plan is not thought out and excessive for the reasons set out in the Knowle Society document attached. See paragraphs at the bottom of page 4 & top of page 5 which I support. Also see Crestwood Environmental report dated 09/01/19 (prepared for KDBH Forum) which examines the vital environmental constraints and concludes that if development is to take place at all it should be restricted to land north of the footpath across the middle of the site.
Destroying Green Belt land south of Knowle for houses is not the right decision in my opinion, the plan is not thought out and excessive for the reasons set out in the Knowle Society document attached. See paragraphs at the bottom of page 4 & top of page 5 which I support. Also see Crestwood Environmental report dated 09/01/19 (prepared for KDBH Forum) which examines the vital environmental constraints and concludes that if development is to take place at all it should be restricted to land north of the footpath across the middle of the site.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8305
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Mrs Marjorie Archer
The houses in Grove Road should remain a "washed over" Green Belt and the land to the north between Grove Road and Knowle centre should remain Green Belt to provide a clear boundary to the existing residential area of the village
The houses in Grove Road should remain a "washed over" Green Belt and the land to the north between Grove Road and Knowle centre should remain Green Belt to provide a clear boundary to the existing residential area of the village
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8315
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Gregory Lowson
A new, larger school is unnecessary and will cause traffic chaos.
This land is green belt. The mayor has only recently said that green belt land should not be used.
The development will destroy the approach to Dorridge and its separation from Knowle.
The Crestwood report has identified the landscape and environmental objections to it. The report specifically highlights the existing ribbon development on Grove Road and its low capacity for development in order to preserve the current character of that road and its character as an approach to Dorridge. Grove road is a minor local road.
A new, larger school is unnecessary and will cause traffic chaos.
This land is green belt. The mayor has only recently said that green belt land should not be used.
The development will destroy the approach to Dorridge and its separation from Knowle.
The Crestwood report has identified the landscape and environmental objections to it. The report specifically highlights the existing ribbon development on Grove Road and its low capacity for development in order to preserve the current character of that road and its character as an approach to Dorridge. Grove road is a minor local road.
Support
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8373
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Mrs Julie Irvine
Arden academy is in need of new buildings as its current ones were not designed to last this long and in serious need of repair. change of use of the site and a movement of the school to a new site with new up to date facilities will benefit both the children and the community.
Arden academy is in need of new buildings as its current ones were not designed to last this long and in serious need of repair. change of use of the site and a movement of the school to a new site with new up to date facilities will benefit both the children and the community.
Support
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8375
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Graeme Chaplin
Arden school premises are not fit for purpose - they are far too small for current pupil numbers and extremely old. New buildings would reduce running costs and provide an educational setting which would promote learning & achievement. I support Option 2 as the only practical way of achieving that improvement, given the lack of funding available to rebuild otherwise.
Arden school premises are not fit for purpose - they are far too small for current pupil numbers and extremely old. New buildings would reduce running costs and provide an educational setting which would promote learning & achievement. I support Option 2 as the only practical way of achieving that improvement, given the lack of funding available to rebuild otherwise.
Object
Draft Local Plan - Supplementary Consultation
Representation ID: 8376
Received: 14/03/2019
Respondent: Mr Harvey Scriven
Strongly against the policy of any expansion into the green belt, including this site. There is no proven case to build in the green belt.
The scale of proposed development is inappropriate for the size of the village.
By encouraging development in the green belt, you are directly contravening government policy, specifically:" The Government attaches great importance to Green Belts. The fundamental aim of Green Belt policy is to prevent urban sprawl by keeping land permanently open; the essential characteristics of Green Belts are their openness and their permanence."
Strongly against this. There is no proven case to build in the green belt.